Yes, We Can Stop Fraud
We're watching the same failure loop.
Americans want to help people in need, but when government does that, about 500 billion taxpayer dollars get stolen.
It’s how the system is designed, says the United Council on Welfare Fraud’s Andrew McClenahan in this new video. “You’re measuring success by the amount of money you put out.”
Because of that, government agencies rarely check whether their handouts go to the right people.
Minnesota is just the latest example.
Government officials didn’t uncover that fraud—YouTuber Nick Shirley did.
I say to McClenahan, “It’s weird that a kid did what government investigators couldn’t do.”
“Articles back in 2018 talked about millions of dollars in suitcases being flown out of Minneapolis,” he replies. “But it took a 20-year-old with an iPhone to go in there and expose it on Twitter.”
After Shirley publicized the fraud, the White House froze billions in welfare payments.
Progressives didn’t like that.
“What they are doing is creating confusion, chaos, trying to intimidate people,” complains Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. “There is no reason for them to fully stop funding these programs. The only reason they’re doing that is for PR purposes.”
Minnesota’s Gov. Tim Walz was hardly better. “This is on my watch. I am accountable,” he said.
But he did nothing about the fraud.
During the pandemic, President Joe Biden said: “My message to those cheats out there is this: You can’t hide. We’re going to find you!”
But they didn’t.
Of the hundreds of billions stolen in 2024, the Department of Justice barely recovered $2.9 billion.
Is there nothing we can do to stop fraud?
“Sure, you can!” says McClenahan. “It takes less than a second to verify things with data connections these days.”
But government rarely uses modern data connections.
Elon Musk, when he ran the Department of Government Efficiency, complained that government records weren’t computerized. Many agencies doled money out without even saying what the money was for, or where it went! He calls government recordkeeping a “time warp.”
“They’re relying on rules and regulations written for pen and paper,” says McClenahan.
Poor recordkeeping makes fraud easier.
Some people openly brag about it.
During President Donald Trump’s first term, a rapper wrote a song about stealing benefits that Trump rushed out for pandemic relief: “I gotta shout-out to Donald Trump. I just might swipe me a lump sum.”
That was in California. There’s lot of fraud there. The state gave phone subsidies to 94,000 accounts of dead people.
“Everybody knows that the United States is the easiest game in town,” says McClenahan.
Some stolen funds go to alleged terrorists.
“We literally rang the dinner bell for the whole world, and they answered,” he says.
“These are American programs,” I point out. “People in other countries aren’t eligible.”
“But if you’re not checking to see where somebody lives, where they’re applying from, who they are, you’re not going to find them!” says McClenahan.
In addition, many state politicians don’t try to find fraud. Handouts mostly come from the federal government, so local politicians reason: “People in other states pay, but my taxpayers collect! Why make a big effort to stop …
We're watching the same failure loop.
Americans want to help people in need, but when government does that, about 500 billion taxpayer dollars get stolen.
It’s how the system is designed, says the United Council on Welfare Fraud’s Andrew McClenahan in this new video. “You’re measuring success by the amount of money you put out.”
Because of that, government agencies rarely check whether their handouts go to the right people.
Minnesota is just the latest example.
Government officials didn’t uncover that fraud—YouTuber Nick Shirley did.
I say to McClenahan, “It’s weird that a kid did what government investigators couldn’t do.”
“Articles back in 2018 talked about millions of dollars in suitcases being flown out of Minneapolis,” he replies. “But it took a 20-year-old with an iPhone to go in there and expose it on Twitter.”
After Shirley publicized the fraud, the White House froze billions in welfare payments.
Progressives didn’t like that.
“What they are doing is creating confusion, chaos, trying to intimidate people,” complains Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. “There is no reason for them to fully stop funding these programs. The only reason they’re doing that is for PR purposes.”
Minnesota’s Gov. Tim Walz was hardly better. “This is on my watch. I am accountable,” he said.
But he did nothing about the fraud.
During the pandemic, President Joe Biden said: “My message to those cheats out there is this: You can’t hide. We’re going to find you!”
But they didn’t.
Of the hundreds of billions stolen in 2024, the Department of Justice barely recovered $2.9 billion.
Is there nothing we can do to stop fraud?
“Sure, you can!” says McClenahan. “It takes less than a second to verify things with data connections these days.”
But government rarely uses modern data connections.
Elon Musk, when he ran the Department of Government Efficiency, complained that government records weren’t computerized. Many agencies doled money out without even saying what the money was for, or where it went! He calls government recordkeeping a “time warp.”
“They’re relying on rules and regulations written for pen and paper,” says McClenahan.
Poor recordkeeping makes fraud easier.
Some people openly brag about it.
During President Donald Trump’s first term, a rapper wrote a song about stealing benefits that Trump rushed out for pandemic relief: “I gotta shout-out to Donald Trump. I just might swipe me a lump sum.”
That was in California. There’s lot of fraud there. The state gave phone subsidies to 94,000 accounts of dead people.
“Everybody knows that the United States is the easiest game in town,” says McClenahan.
Some stolen funds go to alleged terrorists.
“We literally rang the dinner bell for the whole world, and they answered,” he says.
“These are American programs,” I point out. “People in other countries aren’t eligible.”
“But if you’re not checking to see where somebody lives, where they’re applying from, who they are, you’re not going to find them!” says McClenahan.
In addition, many state politicians don’t try to find fraud. Handouts mostly come from the federal government, so local politicians reason: “People in other states pay, but my taxpayers collect! Why make a big effort to stop …
Yes, We Can Stop Fraud
We're watching the same failure loop.
Americans want to help people in need, but when government does that, about 500 billion taxpayer dollars get stolen.
It’s how the system is designed, says the United Council on Welfare Fraud’s Andrew McClenahan in this new video. “You’re measuring success by the amount of money you put out.”
Because of that, government agencies rarely check whether their handouts go to the right people.
Minnesota is just the latest example.
Government officials didn’t uncover that fraud—YouTuber Nick Shirley did.
I say to McClenahan, “It’s weird that a kid did what government investigators couldn’t do.”
“Articles back in 2018 talked about millions of dollars in suitcases being flown out of Minneapolis,” he replies. “But it took a 20-year-old with an iPhone to go in there and expose it on Twitter.”
After Shirley publicized the fraud, the White House froze billions in welfare payments.
Progressives didn’t like that.
“What they are doing is creating confusion, chaos, trying to intimidate people,” complains Rep. Ilhan Omar, D-Minn. “There is no reason for them to fully stop funding these programs. The only reason they’re doing that is for PR purposes.”
Minnesota’s Gov. Tim Walz was hardly better. “This is on my watch. I am accountable,” he said.
But he did nothing about the fraud.
During the pandemic, President Joe Biden said: “My message to those cheats out there is this: You can’t hide. We’re going to find you!”
But they didn’t.
Of the hundreds of billions stolen in 2024, the Department of Justice barely recovered $2.9 billion.
Is there nothing we can do to stop fraud?
“Sure, you can!” says McClenahan. “It takes less than a second to verify things with data connections these days.”
But government rarely uses modern data connections.
Elon Musk, when he ran the Department of Government Efficiency, complained that government records weren’t computerized. Many agencies doled money out without even saying what the money was for, or where it went! He calls government recordkeeping a “time warp.”
“They’re relying on rules and regulations written for pen and paper,” says McClenahan.
Poor recordkeeping makes fraud easier.
Some people openly brag about it.
During President Donald Trump’s first term, a rapper wrote a song about stealing benefits that Trump rushed out for pandemic relief: “I gotta shout-out to Donald Trump. I just might swipe me a lump sum.”
That was in California. There’s lot of fraud there. The state gave phone subsidies to 94,000 accounts of dead people.
“Everybody knows that the United States is the easiest game in town,” says McClenahan.
Some stolen funds go to alleged terrorists.
“We literally rang the dinner bell for the whole world, and they answered,” he says.
“These are American programs,” I point out. “People in other countries aren’t eligible.”
“But if you’re not checking to see where somebody lives, where they’re applying from, who they are, you’re not going to find them!” says McClenahan.
In addition, many state politicians don’t try to find fraud. Handouts mostly come from the federal government, so local politicians reason: “People in other states pay, but my taxpayers collect! Why make a big effort to stop …
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